Dust514 seems to have improved lately. Don't know if it's enough for it to profitable, but there has definitely been some small improvement.

The reason why I think Dust players will be walking in derelicts before us is because most of the technology is already in game. Just add PVE and some new levels.

It would annoy me greatly if it happened though. As it would be another broken promise as far as I'm concerned.

Doesn't need one. It's something players want and aren't willing to give up asking.

they have a pretty horrible track record when it comes to shoehorning avatar gameplay into their spaceship game.

You've killed your own game.

Crucible, Inferno, Retribution, Odyssey and Rubicon are the best expansions of EvE Online, the game is in better shape than ever before.

For real Eve players it already is.

Why are roleplayers always so angry?

Again with the personal attacks...you should try making your point without them.

lol
It's too bad that ISD doesn't delete personal attacks from these threads since they are against the ToS.

I don't think so. Will be some announcement as "Dust finnally on PC" or something related to Valkyrie, or some new amazing game for iPad only. Anyway nothing relevant for EVE.

They wouldn't waste the WiS potential hype not announcing long before.

"Sorry guys we don't have time or the resources to work on WiS, and you don't even want us to work on that stuff right?" (Meanwhile, on the forums, 10,000+ posts combined in the the largest WiS/Avatar related threads)

"We also still won't be working seriously on World of Darkness even though we announced it like 7 years ago, instead we'll sacrifice its devs and / or make them work for our other projects all the time..."

"But hey, because like, at least a hundred people asked for it during the fanfest, here, have some VR gimmick game that takes 30 devs to work on it.. By the way we're going to give the boot for 15 people working on WoD just in a few months time because we can't afford them... I mean we're restructuring our teams. *ahem*"

"Also, to show just how broke we are we're building real life statues for y'all and launching some stuff in to low orbit. "


I mean come on. Can't you see how ridiculous this looks like, and should look like even without my poor attempts at humor? I have nothing againts the people working for CCP, mind you - except just the one whoever is in ultimate charge of these ridiculous decisions.

No it's not. In the grand scheme of things it's yeat another example of CCP claiming they can't do something because no resources / no time / not allowed because reasons. Yet they splurge on things like this. Nevermind if it were "cheap" - and looking at the size of that thing (five meters tall), materials (stainless steel, granite, aluminum), plus the carvings, etc, your $5,000 is a sore underestimate, $30,000-$50,000 is more realistic for material value alone, and still probably undervalued considering all other costs, even if they got the place to slap it on for free.

But to return back on track, it's just another example in a long line of examples of whoever decides these things making dumb decisions. "CCP shouldn't keep all eggs in one basket." But lo and behold, they practically don't seem to care about their other intellectual property that has nothing do with EVE - World of Darkness. Like I said, one of the worst examples being that they put 30 people wokring on EVE: Valkyrie because, apparently, a number of people going to fanfest thought it was cool. Of course they would think it was cool for the couple of days they spend at the fanfest - but really, I haven't even tried Oculus Rift and the "wow factor" has worn off of me. I'd be damn surprised if it doesn't flop, because people will get tired of it in a matter of weeks, just like how 3D television hasn't really taken off because while it is cool, it is only cool the first couple of times.

Getting a little sidelined here... So, they devoted 30 people for Valkyrie. 4 months later they announce they're laying off people from CCP Atlanta. On top of the previous layoffs that affected Atlanta the worst last time. So explain to me how they can't afford to keep 15 people working on a game that would gather a whole different gamerbase than EVE, yet dedicate 30 people to what is, frankly, just a gimmick and probably will not make back even the 30 dev's salaries, and that is just at it's core part of the same universe and largely interesting only for people who already play and know what EVE is.
The people they fired, by the way, were level designers and various other undefined producers and designers. So either WoD is already almost done (yet, they really shouldn't be firing level designers if they plan on expanding the game), or they had to cut down expenses because of Valkyrie and they for some god forsaken reason cut them from the only other game project that could gather them a large number of completely new players - say, some of the people abandoning WoW in droves, or long-time WoD / White Wolf fans - instead of die-hard EVE fans.

What I've read from ex-employees and general workplace reviews - obviously these are somewhat biased accounts, but there has to be a grain of truth in there since just about all of them complain about poor over-meddling management that doesn't seem to listen to no one, not the devs or the customers. The reason that Crucible and Inferno were the largest fixing patches in EVE was because the devs were given almost free reign to work on what they wanted. Faction Warfare was completely abandoned after implementation because the lead game designer hated it and would not let devs work on it despite the pleas of the playerbase. Four years of no iteration on it because of one person.

So yeah, what I'm getting at is, that something is really wrong with the way CCP manages its projects and resource allocation. Another example would be all the prototyping they do that never seems to be good enough to use - again there was a rather complete if buggy WiS Prototybe back in 2008. That got scrapped because reasons. So that was a bunch of dev time down the drain, most likely because of at most a couple of people who simply say "jump" and everyone else in the company have to ask "how high?" These people are the ones who should get fired, before they kill the company - and I*m surprised they haven't yet, despite apparently trying really hard.

There are so many awesome idea that they could do and have even put work into and then just ******* scrap. It wears on my patience to see a game with infinite potential be run like this. They don't want to touch the spaghetti code because that's totally going to magically change later. Good foresight there. Why make the system better when you could procrastinate and get nothing done? A project gets 80% done? Scrap the whole damn thing, why iterate on something when you can just start from scratch.

Im honestly not afraid of star citizen. It isn't even out yet and people have thrown money at it, it could be terrible in practice. Its selling an idea right now, and ideas vs. reality can be very different. I agree though if somehow the actual implement all the things they talk about then EvE will have some decently stiff competition, at least for highsecers moving away from EvE. Id love to see PLEX prices when all the people that actual sell them leave the game lol.

Call me selfish. But I'd rather they implement avatar gameplay before WoD arrives.

Was walking in my quarters today. CCP certainly managed to create some impressive avatar technology. Still the best in the business in my opinion, even despite the severely limited gameplay.